Medical Necessity

Do your CDI nurses speak with physicians about improving medical record documentation to support the medical necessity of an inpatient stay or to support upgrading an observation case to inpatient status??


Ann-Marie Carducci, RN, MPA, CPHM, CPHQ, CPC, CCS, CCDS
Director, Utilization Management
Montefiore Medical Center
914-377-4678 - Yonkers Office
718-904-2695 Einstein Office
917-574-6781 - Cell
email: acarducc@montefiore.org

Comments

  • edited May 2016
    I do it in an informal way. Having a case management/UR background I
    know what is needed to justify stay so when I see a long stay I start
    looking harder at the chart for the medical reasons to justify the stay.
    I also communicate daily with the UR nurses here and give them my
    working DRG and GMLOS for each patient. We have also discussed common
    issues and concerns and I have put those in my biweekly newsletter to
    help educate the providers.


    It's all a team approach here especially since we all know that
    documentation is at the core of taking credit for the care we provide.


    Robert


    Robert S. Hodges, BSN, MSN, RN, CCDS
    Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist
    Aleda E. Lutz VAMC
    Mail Code 136
    1500 Weiss Street
    Saginaw MI 48602
    P: 989-497-2500 x13101
    F: 989-321-4912
    E: Robert.Hodges2@va.gov


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  • edited May 2016
    Like Robert, we speak informally with our physicians regarding Medical
    Necessity. I include it with educational meetings and, at times, under the
    right circumstances incorporate it into my queries

    Medical Necessity is important for many areas. If Diagnoses and treatments
    are not supported by documentation it can impact what can be included for
    coding and reimbursement.

    N. Brunson, RHIA, CDIP, CCDS
  • We provide scheduled seminars for our Medical Staff for the topic of Observation – how to order, when to utilize, and so forth. However, given one must interact on day one of the encounter (when observation is being considered or should be ordered), we do not ‘routinely’ address the topic of Observation as we perform CDI reviews. We schedule CDI reviews for 24-48 hours after admission in order to allow sufficient time for the review of studies and subsequent informed documentation of known or suspected diagnoses.



    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS

    Supervisor, Clinical Documentation Integrity, Quality Department
    California Pacific Medical Center
    2351 Clay #243
    San Francisco, CA 94115
    Cell: 415.637.9002
    Fax: 415.600.1325
    Ofc: 415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org
  • edited May 2016
    We do assist when we can! We help review charts, educate physicians, and write appeal letters for medical necessity cases as well. We also went through Interqual training with our Case Managers and Intake Teams.

    Vicki S. Davis, RN CDS
    Clinical Documentation Improvement Manager
    Health Information Management Department
    Alamance Regional Medical Center
    Office (336) 586-3765
    Ascom Mobile (336) 586-4191
    Fax (336) 538-7428
    vdavis2@armc.com

    "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug."- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
  • I incorporate medical necessity for inpatient into my annual documentation reviews. Each physician with >50 admissions per year is required to meet with me as a component of re-credentialing. Additionally, I am required to meet each new physician (including ED) for CDI purposes and I include medical necessity. When I do the yearly sessions, I also touch base with case management and see if they have any physician issues and I incorporate those as well. I write all appeals for RAC and assist our Chart Auditor with any additional appeals.

    Kathy Shumpert, RN, BSN, CCDS

    Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist
    Community Howard Regional Health
    Office 765-864-8754
    Cell phone 765-431-0123
    Fax 765-453-8447
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