Emergency Room and Critical care coverage

edited May 2016 in CDI Talk Archive

We are reviewing our assignments and I was wondering if anyone is
covering the ER? If so, could you provide pros and cons.

I was also wondering if you cover Critical care on a daily basis or do
you have some other way of covering critical care patients?

Thanks in advance for your feedback.



Mary A Hosler, RN, MSN
Clinical Documentation Specialist
Alumnus CCRN
McLaren Bay Region
1900 Columbus Ave.
Bay City, Michigan 48708
(989) 891-8072
mary.hosler@mclaren.org

"The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the
difference between lightning and the lightning bug."- Samuel "Mark
Twain" Clemens

Comments

  • edited May 2016
    We do not cover the ED. Currently I cover the ICU pts (everything but cardiac and CT surg as another nurse has them). I review the admissions daily.
    Cindy

  • edited May 2016
    I cover critical care and review daily

    Gail Eaton RN PCCN CDS
    Clinical Documentation Specialist
    St Joseph Health
    2700 Dolbeer, Eureka, Ca, 95501
    Office: 707-445-8121 ext 7555
    Cell: 707-267-0279
  • We tried ED several years ago, focusing on the patients with admit orders. UR is not part of our scope.
    We found that there was limited information (we did have EHR at the time with HP, PN, etc.) and therefore found a lot of double work when the patient hit the floor. Others may have different experiences ...

    On critical care, if you are able to focus on mortality/etc profiling (ie, have the tools to KNOW what diagnosis will make a difference for each case), then I believe daily reviews would be useful. If not, most critical care patients have an abundance of relevant diagnosis fairly quickly.

    Don

  • edited May 2016
    We do not review in ED.

    We do review in all our critical care units. We find great teaching opportunities in these units. We are an academic medical center with rotating residents so this may be different in non-academic hospitals.
    We find sign/symptoms and the issue of versus. Also we are education on what is really respiratory failure (PSI issue) along with what is a true post op complication.

    If you are not currently in your critical care unit might be very worthwhile to do a pilot review to see if it is beneficial in your facility.

    Shelia
    Shelia Bullock, RN, BSN, MBA, CCM, CCDS, CCS
    Director, Clinical Documentation Improvement Services
    University of Mississippi Medical Center
    2500 North State Street
    Room S336
    Jackson, MS 39216
    T: 601-815-3079 I F: 601-815-9505
    sabullock@umc.edu
    www.umc.edu

  • We review samples in ICU - can't review all every day due to staffing. Generally, it is very in ICU that patients have MI, Sepsis, ARF, etc, so not a great need to 'query' our ICU staff. Rather, what happens is that subsequent staff fail to endorse certain diagnoses treated and resolved in ICU, sometimes leading to a need to confirm.
    More opportunity for CDI at our site on the regular floors, again, IMO, because the organ failures are often clearly stated for ICU patients.



    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS

    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    Sutter West Bay
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell: 415.637.9002
    Fax: 415.600.1325
    Ofc: 415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org

  • We cover critical care on a daily basis. We started in the ED a few months ago, there is little on the record yet but I would make myself available tot he ED doctors, listen to their dictation and review their documentation as it was happenning. When reviewing labs etc I would verbally query. I only go time permitting, but feel if a person was in ED full time we really could influence change. Also if you sending someone to the ED have them "beef up" on E&M coding.
    Laurie L. Prescott RN, MSN, CCDS, CDIP
    lprescott@morehead.org
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