Mortality Review

We are just beginning to delve into mortality review here at my
facility. I started by stratifying inpatient mortality discharges into
APR ROM scores. It makes sense to start with the 1's and 2's to see if
there are any diagnoses that could be documented in a more "codable"
manner, but I have some questions and hope that those of you who have
been doing this for a while will share your expertise.



My main question is this: What do you do about the organ failures that
inevitably result in death but do not really meet the UHDDS criteria for
reportable secondary diagnoses? I participated in the ACDIS conference
call last week and heard Dr. Gold's opinion that any diagnoses that
occur after the patient is made comfort care should not be coded. This
does make sense, but I wonder how others are handling this issue.



More questions:



* Do you factor in the SOI score or just use ROM if you are
using APR-DRG methodology? (I have the 3M APR grouper available to use).

* How do you use your physician advisor for mortality review?

* What do you do with the results of your review?

* Do you have a different methodology for inpatient mortality
and 30 day post discharge mortality?

* Can you give me a good reference for the severity adjustment
methodology used to risk adjust 30 day post-discharge mortality?



Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward to the group's input.



Cathy Seluke, RN, BSN, ACM, CCDS
Supervisor Clinical Documentation Compliance
MaineGeneral Medical Center
Augusta and Waterville, Maine
(207) 872-1796
Cathy.Seluke@mainegeneral.org

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  • edited May 2016
    See red notes below.

    It is interesting to hear the physician responses when they see their patient numbers. I have had mortality records with only one or two codes (SOI/ROM 1/1 or 1/2) which move to 3/4- 4/4 with two or three additional diagnoses.

    The goal of course it to have all deaths a 4/4 - does not always occur.

    I also listened to the conference call. I do not query for organ shut down unless there is very good documentation to support a query.

    i.e. nursing documents: labored breathing, RR of 34, sats dipping into the 70's, bumped 02 up

    On rare occasion there is a physician who documents the clinical indicators.

    On a lot of the 'comfort care' patients there is little to no documentation to support an organ failure query.

    Charlene
  • I have been reviewing 100% of inpatient deaths for the last 18+ months and can provide my personal perspective on some of your questions.

    For your "main question": I have never considered that ANYTHING documented to have occurred after a move to Comfort Care as not being codeable, but I would agree that this is generally how it works. That being said, it depends. There are certainly situations where it may be appropriate to code. Especially when/if you have a patient on CC for an extended period of time. Or, you have a patient admitted that quickly moves to Comfort care. I did not hear Dr. Gold's opinion, but I have read this article several times to try to look for some guidance. It is several years old though...

    http://www.hcpro.com/acdis/details.cfm?content_id=230011


    Our review process involves me reviewing the record retrospectively with a draft coding summery provided by coding. I am focusing on accurate Pdx, DRG, Primary procedure and all significant co-morbidities. I use both SOI and ROM as indicators. That being said, even if we are at a 4/4, I will still provide feedback as to missing CC/MCC's in the coding summery. However, I only query the MD if there will be impact on the DRG or SOI/ROM. For example: if I see encephalopathy documented in the record, I will ask the coder to consider adding the code even if we are at a 4/4 in DRG 871. But, if encephalopathy was not documented but the clinical indicators are there in this scenario, I would not hold up the record to query, as there would be no impact.
    I contact our PA if we have a low SOI/ROM on a death record that I do not see any way to impact. Any death record coded with either an SOI or ROM of 2 or lower, will be sent. I also send him cases that are 3/3 if they were unexpected deaths that I know will be of interest down the road. For ex: an elective shoulder that codes post-op.
    We have created an electronic registry housed within MIDAS where I enter my reviews. I track whether I queried, any added CC/MCC's, Pdx change, DRG change, etc, as well as a few unrelated things that have been asked to watch for. Because this is also in our MIDAS system, I am able to then add all demographic data and that type of info if needed. I can then pull reports of all the data and what my impact has been. I have only actually done this once.
    30 day mortalities are not treated any differently in our process.

    I will admit our process is very time-intensive, it routinely involves multiple conversations with coders and sometimes an additional review by our coding manager. However, the impact has been significant and both the coders and myself have learned a ton through the process.

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404
  • I did not interpret Dr. Gold's advice to state "that any diagnoses that occur after the patient is made comfort care should not be coded.". As with any issue, the answer is - "it depends".

    We should code a condition that meets the UHDDS Guidelines - The criteria to capture these conditions as mandated by ICD-9-CM official guidelines are the diagnosis must be clinically monitored, evaluated, or treated, and/or result in an extended length of stay (LOS), and require nurse monitoring.

    Example: I reviewed a case whereby a patient was admitted with ICH with 'significant midline shift'. The record documented the 'midline shift' led to the decision to place the patient on Comfort Care because of the severity of the shift. A neurologist documented the severity of the shift gave the patient zero chance of a meaningful life. He stated it would be futile to treat the 'shift' with surgical measures and/or drugs. He recommended Comfort Care, and this was the course undertaken. The patient expired with a ROM of "2". I was asked to review the chart.

    Key Point: The Radiology Report documented a clear, unambiguous and significant hernia of the Brain.

    The term midline shift can't be coded - the ROM was 2 with the ICH as principal Dx.


    The hernia of the brain was not treated, and lead to the decision to make the patient Comfort Care. The hernia of the brain justified and explained WHY the patient was made comfort care.

    KEY CONCEPT: Clinical evaluation means the medical staff is aware of the condition and is evaluating it in terms of evaluation, testing, consultations, and clinical observation of the patient's condition and/or the existence of the condition affect the types or choices of treatment rendered to the patient.


    The Attending agreed this was a hernia, the chart was compliantly amended, and the correct ROM of "4" was reported.
    The ROM was 4 with the hernia of the brain.


    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS

    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell: 415.637.9002
    Fax: 415.600.1325
    Ofc: 415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org
  • edited May 2016
    Wouldn't it depend on whether your facility converts inpatient beds to hospice beds? If a MD writes an order for comfort care at our facility (we are an acute care facility only with no flipping to hospice bed) there is usually preparation and planning to discharge them to hospice. With that being said, the pt remains an acute care admission therefore any diagnoses that meet the definitions of principal or secondary would apply, right? Please correct me with I am wrong on this.


    Dawn
  • More questions:


    * Do you factor in the SOI score or just use ROM if you are using APR-DRG methodology? (I have the 3M APR grouper available to use). We review for ROM at this time, but Medi-Cal with soon use the APR-DRG methodology with SOI for reimbursement.

    * How do you use your physician advisor for mortality review? Generally - no. The CDI team reviews and will query the attending if we see significant abnormalities charted w/o a clear diagnosis.

    * What do you do with the results of your review? Share them the MD VP of Quality

    * Do you have a different methodology for inpatient mortality and 30 day post discharge mortality? No 30 day review.

    * Can you give me a good reference for the severity adjustment methodology used to risk adjust 30 day post-discharge mortality?


    Anything expired case that is 2/2 or less, we review. However, all cases count, not 'just' the expired cases. However, given it is not possible to review all admits, we find it helpful to review the mortality cases with low scores. Generally, we can find a legitimate change leading to a better score in 50% of the cases reviewed. Again, we do this w/o any PA or MD input as they are not available. We use our existing library of query forms to review cases for clinical criteria.


    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS

    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell: 415.637.9002
    Fax: 415.600.1325
    Ofc: 415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org
  • edited May 2016
    What I understood Dr Gold to say was that if a patient is admitted with Acute Diastolic CHF and ESRD and ultimately the decision is made for comfort care, when the patient expires you would not code the cardiac/respiratory arrest as those occur with death. You would code the CHF and ESRD.

    Sharon Cole, RN, CCDS
    Providence Health Center
    Case Management Dept
    254.751.4256
    Sharon.cole@phn-waco.org
  • Perfect example Paul!

    Katy Good
  • Right. Our coders will not code respiratory failure for example if documented after comfort care was initiated if it was not present/treated prior to that decision.

    Katy Good
  • No one should code the last moments of expiration leading to 'cardiopulmonary arrest' - I do not know of any coding staff that does so, and this is what I interpreted Dr. Gold to state.

    I hope we all agree that this statement is not valid: ' IF condition X is not treated, THEN it can't be coded". I hear this often, and it is not a valid statement.


    One More Example:

    Patient is on Home Hospice - declines rapidly and family takes said pt to ED despite prior decision for Hospice.

    Family decides to Admit and the Medical Staff documents the patient is in Septic Shock due to PNA with Acute Respiratory Failure. MD convinces family best course of action is Comfort Care and family agrees. No Goal Directed Therapy or curative intervention directed towards the Sepsis, shock, PNA or Respiratory Failure - however, all qualify for reporting as 'evaluation' criteria for UHDDS is met, and conditions explain the clinical picture and rationalization for Comfort Care.

    Paul E.

    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
  • Paul I totally agree with you. I have had several conversations with physicians who do not want to add diagnosis' after a pt is made CMO when the condition was present prior to the order for CMO and contributed to the decision to make the pt CMO. Often times these pt's SOI/ROM is very low without the acute conditions documented that led to the CMO decision.
    Cindy
  • edited May 2016
    Agreed.

    Sharon Cole, RN, CCDS
    Providence Health Center
    Case Management Dept
    254.751.4256
    Sharon.cole@phn-waco.org
  • Paul -- Great example!!
    Katy -- you've outlined a very nice process, one that I suspect is similar to many that seriously review mortality cases.

    As Paul also said, though all cases affect mortality profiling and observed to expected ratios, there needs to be a pragmatic focus as to what is possible to actually achieve.

    I review all mortality cases that have a LOS
  • When responding to parties that advocate deletion of a code for a condition because the condition was not treated, it is vital to cite the official definition for "other diagnoses", as 'too often' said parties state: "Condition X does not quality as it was not treated".

    Notice use of word "OR" in below statement.



    For reporting purposes the definition for "other diagnoses" is interpreted as additional conditions that affect patient care in terms of requiring:

    clinical evaluation; OR

    therapeutic treatment; OR

    diagnostic procedures; OR

    extended length of hospital stay; OR
    increased nursing care and/or monitoring.

    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS

    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell: 415.637.9002
    Fax: 415.600.1325
    Ofc: 415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org
  • Not that I know of.

    I am still confused on the Palliative care exclusions you reference. There were a couple discussions about this in the past and it was never resolved (that I can see).

    http://list.hcpro.com/read/messages?id=270820#270820
    http://list.hcpro.com/read/messages?id=270743#270743

    I am still confused as to whether palliative care and/or comfort care patients are excluded? In which scenarios? Who does this in your facility? Quality?

    We continue to have a less than favorable O:E ratio while maintaining a very high CMI, high CC/MCC capture, etc. I have often wondered what the other pieces but no one in my own facility has ever been able to answer this.

    I would appreciate any help/guidance. Wish I had something to help you with...


    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404
  • Katy:

    It is cumbersome, but perhaps ensure the 'coded' ROM/SOI scores are 'passed' correctly via software from the HIM Coding Portal to the software used to compile your overall O/E scores.

    I have sometimes seen instances whereby a ROM of 3 or 4 is coded by the coder and is present in the coding software, yet the facility data compiled to report overall O/E will show a blank field for ROM/SOI for some of these claims with favorable ROM scores.

    I do not know 'why' this happens and am trying to resolve this issue with the correct IT representatives .

    I also repeat my belief that version 30.0 of the 3M APR/DRG grouper yields significantly lower ROM/SOI scores than the previous 3M version 29.0.



    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
     
    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell:  415.637.9002
    Fax:  415.600.1325
    Ofc:  415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org
  • edited May 2016
    I have been working on getting my RHIA and just ran across some information on reimbursement in ICD-10. Apparently the next DRG Version with ICD-10 will make it harder to push the APR score higher as well.

    Kevin O'Neil, RHIT
    CDI Specialist
    Herrin Hospital
    kevin.o'neil@sih.net
  • Ovey!? Gnashing of the teeth is what emanates from me! It is quite a challenge now to achieve 1.0.

    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
     
    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell:  415.637.9002
    Fax:  415.600.1325
    Ofc:  415.600.3739
    evanspx@sutterhealth.org
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