clarifications

I would like to throw an idea out there and see if any one has tried it, and if so, how it is working:
I would like to stop placing worksheets on all the charts and only place the clarifications on the charts as needed.The intent to increase productivity and reduce any possible compliance risk, and also to minimize confusion with the providers.

Comments

  • edited May 2016
    Good idea, but there are several other things you may need to think about.
    *We've received comments from others (such as CM & nursing) that our worksheets are helpful to them in providing a brief clinical summary, as well as the benefits of estimated ALOS which shows on the worksheets.
    *The visibility of worksheets helps with awareness of the program, and serves as a reminder to providers that this particular case does NOT have a need for documentation clarification (that they are doing a good job with documentation).
    *Depending on your process, the availability of the worksheets for coding staff when they are final coding the case may help to prompt them to go back and look again at a diagnosis they might have missed or to give a second thought to PDX selection.

    I am not sure what the concerns are for compliance risk -- CDI should be conducted in such a way that there is NO increased compliance risk -- let the light of day show on your work, you ought not have anything to be worried about. If not, perhaps reexamine the program.

    For what it's worth....
    Don


  • I respectfully disagree with Don. I stopped putting worksheets in the chart (in my previous position; now I work with EMR) with the permission of my supervisor, and it made my job much easier. If anyone ever wanted to see a worksheet, it would have been no problem to print it out. It was never part of the permanent record, so I don't see it as a compliance issue.

    The few times a physician actually read my worksheet, it caused no end of confusion, because they thought I was the coder and they disagreed with the codes I had chosen. Otherwise they never looked at them. As it was, I had to change my query form to shocking pink and put a tab on it to get them to read the queries, much less the worksheets. I had the worksheets in the charts for over a year and people still thought I was the case manager.

    Not having to put the worksheets in the chart meant not always having to fight to get to the charts, not struggling to get a printer to work from my wireless, and not having to pull out and replace my old worksheet every time I updated it. The coders already were not getting my worksheets because my supervisor thought they might be cribbing (they weren't). It was up to me to reconcile daily and let them know about discrepancies that I thought were in their court.

    Just my perspective.

    Renee


    Linda Renee Brown, RN, CCRN, CCDS
    Certified Clinical Documentation Specialist
    Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center
  • edited May 2016
    I don't place my worksheets in the chart either. Sometimes I jot things on the worksheet to look for on the next review, just a way to remind myself where I was and what tree I was climbing. I think of it as my personal worksheet, we don't place worksheets from others on the charts. I refer to them during our weekly length of stay meeting. I agree that it could be misinterpreted as a conflict for the coders as well.

    Kathy Shumpert, RN, BSN

    Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist
    Howard Regional Health System
    Office 765-864-8754
    Pager 765-604-0424
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  • We stopped placing our worksheets on our chart about 4 years ago. We only place queries on charts now. It has decreased the confusion with our physicians.



  • We had a great deal of confusion with our physicians. They would write over our documentation - remove and add diagnosis and procedures. We would get "interesting" comments on our worksheets. They would be removed by unit clerks and other staff. Life has gotten much easier.
    UM liked having our worksheets on the chart but they can always ask us a question if they need to. They pick a DRG based on their review and they are given a LOS based on their UM system.
    We stopped assigning DRGs about 4 years ago - most of our discrepancies were related to add'l info after our last review - we now focus on accurate chart documentation. The DRG will be the DRG if the documentation is there to support it.
    When we reconcile our worksheets we look at princ. dx and cc, mcc's.


  • edited May 2016
    Well said, Don. Thanks Charlene #2


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