CCS is back!

edited April 2016 in CDI Talk Archive
CCS exam is back starting August 1st ! I just registered for a CCS
Prep course. Anyone else plans to take it?


From AHIMA:

CCHIIM RELAUNCHES THE CCS EXAM AUGUST 1

The Commission on Certification for Health Informatics and Information
Management (CCHIIM) has announced that the Certified Coding Specialist
(CCS) examination will be available again beginning August 1. The exam
was suspended in all US and Global Pearson Professional Centers on
March 31, due to exam security and integrity concerns. These issues
have since been resolved in the US; there is no further information on
when the exam will resume in Asia.

Registration for the exam is available in the AHIMA Store. After
registration and payment, an Authorization to Test letter allows
registrants to schedule an exam date. A list of testing centers is
available at the Pearson Vue website.

Read more at the Journal of AHIMA website.

Thank you!

Yuliya Fish, RN, BSN, CCDS, CDIP
Clinical Documentation Specialist
Mount Sinai Beth Israel Brooklyn
Office 718-951-9976

Comments

  • edited April 2016
    I have been thinking about it for years now.... You just may give me the inspiration to hunker down and prep for it and take it!

    Mark


  • edited April 2016
    Where are you finding the prep course ?

  • edited April 2016
    I signed up for August 6th course

    http://www.primacodemasters.net/newpage.html

  • edited April 2016
    Has anyone used this CCS review resource before and was it beneficial and worth the investment?
    Jamie Dugan RN CCDS
    Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist
    Baptist Health System
    Jacksonville, Florida

  • edited April 2016
    Are you also coding as a CDI to meet the qualifications for the exam?

  • edited April 2016
    I do code as part of my review process for concurrent and have done this for three years inpt.
    Jamie Dugan RN CCDS
    Clinical Documentation Specialist
    Baptist Health System
    Jacksonville, Florida

  • edited April 2016
    I think it is great to have both certifications!

  • Where is the link for the prep course...I may be interested!
    Thanks,
    Deb


    Debra Stewart BSN, RN
    Clinical Documentation Specialist
    Halifax Regional Hospital
    South boston, va. 24592
    (434)-517-3317 Work
    (434)-222-9884 Cell





  • edited April 2016
    I do concurrent coding on all charts.


  • edited April 2016
    I sat for the test this March, I would recommend reviewing the current coding guidelines, and review the CCS exam study guide. I felt this helped me. Also, read the introduction of a current CPT book.

    Proud to say I passed.
    Hope this help and Good Luck

    Tiffany Andras LPN, CCS, CDS
    Thiboduax Regional Medical Center




  • I took the exam 2.5 years ago. It was definitely the hardest exam I have taken though I was a relatively new CDI with only a year in this field and no exposure to coding prior to this job. I did NOT take a prep course. That being said, I had spent the last year getting a lot of one-on-one coding instruction with our coding manager because at that time we were reviewing every death chart together (we did this for a year). She basically was performing a coding audit and I was looking for documentation opportunities so I think my coding knowledge was pretty decent for a CDI considering the amount of time I had been doing it. Right after the exam, I posted my retrospective advice on CDITalk on this thread http://list.hcpro.com/read/messages?id=260107#260107

    This was my advice:
    The test is split in domains. I had no problem (100%) on compliance, privacy/ethics, Data quality management, Documentation and the inpatient regulatory/reporting guidelines. I did fine on the information/communication technology as well. I struggled a little more with the outpatient regulation/reporting guidelines (probably because I have no background in outpatient).
    But, what really threw me was the actual diagnosis and procedure coding. It was BRUTAL! Prior to beginning to study I had never opened a CPT book so the outpatient procedure coding was exceedingly difficult. I also don’t ever look at V-codes, so I needed to learn those as well.
    The exam has roughly 100 mult choice/mult select. That was the easy part for me. Then there are 12 cases that you have to code. Time is really the issue. I realized that I was only on case #7 with 30 minutes left in the exam (and I am a fast reader)! I had read somewhere that you get points for each correct dx/procedure but you get extra point for having the correct Pdx. When I realized there was no way I would complete every case I began flipping though, assigning the principle dx and any easy dx I saw in the D/C summery (HTN, DM, hyperlipemia) and just entering 0000 for the other blanks (you have to enter something to move on). This worked for me. In retrospect, I shouldn’t have wasted so much time searching for one missing dx (you know how many codes you should have based on the blanks) and should have focused on just getting the easy dx. I also likely should have skipped the CPT procedure entirely and moved on to the ones I was more likely to get right. I am positive my score would have been higher this way. You actually can miss a lot of the coding questions and still pass when you do well on the other portions.

    I did use the AHIMA study guide. I would also suggest memorizing as much as possible of the "Guidelines" in the book. You have the book but you do not have time look that stuff up. I would not waste my time (although I did) on reviewing coding clinics.

    Good luck to everyone!!

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404


  • edited April 2016
    I'm feeling motivated to study for this.
    Katy-how long did you prep for? Did you mainly use the AHIMA guide to study?
    I think with studying I could wing the inpt coding/questions-but I am petrified of the outpt portion and am wondering if I can self-teach this part?
    Thanks,
    Kerry

    Kerry Seekircher, RN, BSN, CCDS, CDIP
    Documentation Specialist Supervisor
    Northern Westchester Hospital
    400 East Main Street
    Mount Kisco, NY 10549
    Email: kseekircher@nwhc.net
    Phone: 914-666-1243
    Fax: 914-666-1013




  • Honestly, I had no idea what I was getting myself into and didn't really start studying until a couple weeks prior. And then I literally lived and breathed coding until I took the test. I only had the AHIMA study guide I believe.
    The basic coding portion is pretty easy. I just made the mistake of obsessing about getting all the possible codes so I spent a lot of time hunting around the book for obscure codes. I should have just grabbed the ones that stood out and were easy to find and moved on. I will be honest, I find CPT pretty difficult. I probably needed a class on that. But the I-9 part of OP was easy. I should have just skipped the CPT part.

    I think it's important to remember that most of us in CDI that do some sort of coding are exclusively using the encoder which does nothing for you on the test. Get comfortable with your book, it's the only resource you will have.

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404


  • edited April 2016
    Thank you for the advice. I'm a cram it in kind of studier-so I will probably prepare the same way you did and pray it works out : ) I can see myself getting stuck wanting to search for every code-so your feedback was really helpful to just move on!
    Kerry

  • Best Advice


    1. The principal diagnosis MUST be correct in any inpatient scenarios
    2. Avoid the clinical tendency to infer what 'should be coded' versus what is EXPLICTLY documented
    3. CC/MCC Selection must be valid and based on UHDDS Definition
    4. Yes, CPT is totally different from ICD, but one should be familiar with coding some of the basic outpatient procedures, such as colonoscopy, excision of skin lesions, bunionectomy, and so forth.

    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
  • edited April 2016
    I took it in 2012 and didn't realize it was the beta version of a new format. I got in under the wire (they've changed the rules now so you must have actual coding experience or have taken a formal coding program--used to be recommended only but now mandatory). I was completely inspired by Katy Good's experience, although the exam format ended up as different than what she had taken.

    I did not take a prep course. I did have a couple of study books and spent three weeks basically doing nothing but studying. The fact that I don't ever study for anything and did no prep work whatsoever for either the CCDS or the CDIP may tell you how different I felt this test to be. Of course the ICD-9 side was much easier to grasp than the CPT side. Because I tend to be forgetful about things I don't use every day even if I've studied, I had to make notes--you can mark up your coding books within reason. I added colored tabs to each section and labeled them so it was easier to navigate the books. I was a little bit at a loss with CPT until I decided just to go from front to back of the CPT book and mark each section so that I understood what fell under each section and that I could find it readily. I marked similar procedures together and made notes showing the differences. I marked the indices. I wrote notes to myself in the margins such as to remember to add modifier codes and to remember bilaterality on any page it applied. On the ICD-9 side, I did the same thing, but didn't need to do as much. I wrote on every OB page, v27.0, to remind me to code live newborn (that's my forgetfulness again). I wrote an abbreviated list of the V-codes so I could find them easily. On the page with temporary trach, I wrote the V-code for vent dependence--again, something a coder would know to do but that I rarely had to think about as a CDI. Anything that came up when I did practice questions or study points was written on the appropriate page in the book. If I didn't understand something, I Googled the heck out of it until I found someone who had a answer.

    So when I finally got around to taking the test, it was actually pretty easy because I had prepped so well. Admittedly, I scored higher on the theory questions than on the actual coding, but it's the overall score that counts.

    Renee

    Linda Renee Brown, RN, CCDS, CCS, CDIP
  • edited April 2016
    Yes, I noticed the change in the rules for who is eligible to take the test. I do CDI inpatient reviews and use the encoder in our 3m CDIS program. The coders are able to review our findings and see our coding in the encoder. I been working with the encoder for over 7yrs. I'm wondering, if that would meet the requirements for coding experience before I look into getting this certification too.

    Eileen Pracz, RN CCDS

  • Has anyone applied lately to test for CCS? And if so does your experience as CDI count towards the requirement of applying codes?
    Thanks,
    Tara RN, CCDS
  • edited April 2016
    I hope so as I have been a CDI for 3.5 years. It there any talk of changing to ICD 10 testing? Thanks Jamie

    Jamie Dugan RN, CCDS
    Clincal Documentation Improvement Specialist
    3563 Philips Highway, Suite #106
    Jacksonville, Florida 32207
    Office: 904-202-4345


  • edited April 2016
    I took mine in 2012, but my one year of CDI experience was sufficient.

    Good luck!

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404


  • I'd generally encourage anyone taking any type of test involving an aspect of coding to test prior to ICD-10 implementation.

    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
     
    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    Sutter West Bay
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell:  415.412.9421

    evanspx@sutterhealth.org



  • edited April 2016
    I took CCS yesterday and PASSED!!!

    I took a prep course in Sept., but kept postponing the exam.


    Yuliya Fish, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS, CDIP
    Clinical Documentation Specialist
    Mount Sinai Beth Israel Brooklyn
    Office 718-951-9976



  • edited April 2016
    Congratulations!!!! Can you email me with your experience please
    Jamie
    Jamie.dugan@bmcjax.com
    Jamie Dugan RN, CCDS
    Clincal Documentation Improvement Specialist
    3563 Philips Highway, Suite #106
    Jacksonville, Florida 32207
    Office: 904-202-4345

  • edited April 2016
    Congrats! I would like to know how it was too, I need to get it scheduled.
    Thanks,
    Tara
    TKreiling78@comast.net

  • edited April 2016
    Congrats! Such an accomplishment!! I remember that giant feeling of RELIEF!!!

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404


  • I would also like any information – I just took a CCS review course recently. Would appreciate ANY help/feedback! Rachel.Mack@sclhs.net.

    -Rachel Mack, RN, CCDS, CDIP
    303-403-7925 (office)
    rachel.mack@sclhs.net

  • edited April 2016
    Which prep course did you take/from whom?

    Julie Draper
    CDI Team Lead
    641.428.7032
    draperj@mercyhealth.com

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