[BULK] RE: infection prevention

Happy Friday!

Our Infection Prevention team documents in their software. Anything documented in the medical record is discoverable in court.

Sincerely,
Cara Belnap MS, RN, CCDS
Lead Clinical Documentation Specialist | Health Information Management
St. Luke's Health System | 190 E Bannock St. | Boise, ID 83712
Phone: (208) 381-9302| Fax: 208-381-7186 | E-mail: belnapc@slhs.org

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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:06 AM
To: Belnap, Cara
Subject: [BULK] [cdi_talk] infection prevention

I am wondering if you can share how your infection prevention team documents when they identify a hospital associated infection (CAUTI, VAP, C-diff, SSI, etc). Our IP team currently does not document in the medical record at all, only in their own tracking software and I am wondering if that is the norm or if other facilities handle this differently.

Thanks!

Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
Flagstaff Medical Center
Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
Cell: 928.814.9404




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  • We have a post-discharge/Pre-bill quality review process in place. Our coding team codes the record, runs a report at the end of their day that looks for any PSI, HAC or other defined complication codes. If a record is identified as having one of those, the record is placed on hold and not transmitted for billing until reviewed by CDI, Quality and final adjustments made by Coding supervisors. We utilize all of our areas of expertise to ensure that we are accurately reporting out PSIs, HACs and complications. Our Quality department discusses their guidelines and opinions, CDI looks for any opportunity in the record to clarify the documentation, and Coding Supervisors ensure that everything that is recommended or discussed is compliant, follows coding guidelines, is substantiated by the documentation in the record and they make the final determination for final coding - then the bill is dropped.

    That is the short version ;) Hope it helps.

    Sincerely,
    Cara Belnap MS, RN, CCDS
    Lead Clinical Documentation Specialist | Health Information Management
    St. Luke's Health System | 190 E Bannock St. | Boise, ID 83712
    Phone: (208) 381-9302| Fax: 208-381-7186 | E-mail: belnapc@slhs.org

    "We cannot become what we need to be by remaining what we are" - Max DePree

    From: CDI Talk [mailto:cdi_talk@hcprotalk.com]
    Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:19 AM
    To: Belnap, Cara
    Subject: [BULK] RE:[cdi_talk] infection prevention

    This is what I was expecting. So is there a process in place to notify CDI when a dx has been made? We have NOT been encouraged to query for these conditions because IP feels like they are the appropriate people to be making this determination and there are concerns that the MD's would designate infections as HACs when they are not (like anytime a patient is identified as having a UTI after foley insertion). However, we are not privy to these dx when made by IP.
    Our HAC data for infections as coded versus as perforated are completely different and the hospital would like to see this come into alignment as much as possible.

    And for the record, I just HATE this legal business that discourages transparency in the medical record.....

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404

    From: CDI Talk [mailto:cdi_talk@hcprotalk.com]
    Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 7:10 AM
    To: Kathryn Good
    Subject: RE:[cdi_talk] infection prevention

    We have the same process as you do.

    Thanks,
    Kathy
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    Kathy Shumpert, MSN, RN, CCDS
    Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist
    Community Howard Regional Health
    3500 S Lafountain
    PO Box 9011
    Kokomo, IN 46902
    O 765.864.8754 | C 765.431.0123 | F 765.453.8447 | E kshumper@communityhoward.org




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    To: Kathy Shumpert
    Subject: [cdi_talk] infection prevention

    I am wondering if you can share how your infection prevention team documents when they identify a hospital associated infection (CAUTI, VAP, C-diff, SSI, etc). Our IP team currently does not document in the medical record at all, only in their own tracking software and I am wondering if that is the norm or if other facilities handle this differently.

    Thanks!

    Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
    Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
    Flagstaff Medical Center
    Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
    Cell: 928.814.9404




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  • edited May 2016
    Just my opinion – but I would work with IP on education to the medical staff regarding the guidelines and what constitutes each type of HAC and how it should be documented in the record. MD’s want to do the right thing, and accurate reporting no matter where it falls out should be the end goal within the record.

    Cara Belnap MS, RN, CCDS
    Lead Clinical Documentation Specialist | Health Information Management
    St. Luke's Health System | 190 E Bannock St. | Boise, ID 83712
    Phone: (208) 381-9302| Fax: 208-381-7186 | E-mail: belnapc@slhs.org

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