ileus

Can anyone tell me when you would code an ileus as postoperative? Its usual for a pt to have an ileus post GI surg but when should it be coded, what time frame should be used to determine ifit is a postoperative ileus 997.4 ? Thanks

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  • edited April 2016
    Our coders won't code anything as post-op unless the MD specificly documents "post-op". We have to query for most post -op conditions.





  • edited April 2016
    It isn't a post-operative complication unless the MD says it is. We
    educated our surgeons to simply say ileus instead of post-operative
    ileus if it was NOT a complication. That's another instance between
    clinical verbiage and coding verbiage/rules not being equitable. The
    surgeon is talking about time frame, not necessarily cause/effect.

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  • Hi Paul. I have taken a little less formal approach to getting this clarified. The following is a letter I wrote to a surgeon who didn't understand why we kept asking him to clarify "postop ileus" in his patients. Further education with all of the Surgical groups has led to properly reported / coded ileus diagnoses. I tried to explain the process and reasoning since there isn’t a set number of days in which to expect the return of bowel function – since it varies with different types of surgeries.



    Dr. B - I was made aware of your response to one of our documentation specialist's queries regarding a post-op ileus. (that we were splitting hairs way too finely). I wanted to explain the rationale why we ask this clarification question.



    When you document "post-op ileus", the Index to Diseases classifies this to ICD-9 code of 997.4 - Digestive system complications. If the coder went solely by the Index to Diseases, a complication of surgery code would be automatically assigned. However, if your patient is experiencing a "normal" physiologic ileus due to gut dysmotility s/p abdominal surgery and is a benign condition that resolves without intervention, no code should be assigned as this does not meet the definition of a reportable secondary diagnosis. However, when an ileus is prolonged and unexpected and requires additional testing or resources (xrays, NG's, prolonged NPO status) and is a complication of the surgery (as opposed to being due to narcotics or autonomic neuropathy), it needs specified as such in order to reflect the higher severity of illness that these pts represent.



    Basically, we want to ensure the correct ICD-9 code is selected by our coders (who are non-clinical personnel) and that the code they assign represents the diagnosis you intended.



    So, if your pt has a post-op ileus that is expected given the type of surgery you performed, consider documenting "expected post-op ileus"

    If your pt has an ileus after surgery that you suspect is due to narcotics, specify this as "post-op ileus due to narcotics"

    If your pt has a post-op ileus that extends beyond the timeframe of what you would normally expect and requires additional resources and testing, consider documenting "prolonged post-op ileus - a complication of surgery."



    This will ensure appropriate coding of your pts medical record and keep us in good standing from a compliance standpoint.





    LeeAnn Conaway, RN III, CCRN, CCDS
    CDS Coordinator
    UPMC Altoona
    Quality Management
    814–889–3313 office
    814–502-6772 cell




  • edited April 2016
    It seems like you're not the only one struggling with this problem.

    According to this article, "when a definition of postoperative ileus is stated, the timeframe is not given or is inconsistent between studies."
    http://www.uptodate.com/contents/postoperative-ileus

    A review from New Zealand states, "There is a lack of an internationally accepted standardised clinical definition for postoperative ileus....Data were amalgamated to synthesise the following definitions: postoperative ileus (POI) “interval
    from surgery until passage of flatus/stool AND tolerance of an oral diet”; prolonged POI “two or more of nausea/vomiting,
    inability to tolerate oral diet over 24 h, absence of flatus over 24 h, distension, radiologic confirmation occurring on or after
    day 4 postoperatively without prior resolution of POI”; recurrent POI “two or more of nausea/vomiting, inability to tolerate
    oral diet over 24 h, absence of flatus over 24 h, distension, radiologic confirmation, occurring after apparent resolution of
    POI." J Gastrointest Surg (2013) 17:962–972

    Other articles I've read basically say the same thing--that there's no established definition, and they're much more recent than the 1990 article you cite.

    Renee

    Linda Renee Brown, RN, MA, CCDS, CCS, CDIP
    Director, Clinical Documentation
    Tanner Health System
  • Hi, LeAnn

    I 100% agree with your efforts to educate. My issue is that my region is huge and we have a residency program. It is inevitable that the term “PO ileus’ will be documented on our cases, even on PO Day #1. Hence, in addition to educational efforts, I must create a query for this recurring issue.

    Have you built a query? Here is my DRAFT to date.


    Ileus Post-op
    Query:
    On DATE documentation in the NOTE TYPE section of the medical record indicates the patient has ***. Clinical evaluation / treatment includes ***.

    The surgical procedure XXX was performed on DATE

    Please clarify the clinical significance, acuity, etiology, and severity of the findings noted in the medical record.

    You may answer this query by marking the checkbox(es) below or using free text at the ( * ) if appropriate.

    Provider Query Response:*

    There is no Ileus for this case
    Ileus was present before a procedure and is unrelated to procedure
    Ileus started after the procedure but is due to a disease
    Ileus started after the procedure but is due to a medication
    Ileus is due to the procedure and is out of the ordinary, thus should be coded as a complication
    Ileus is due to the procedure, falls within the routinely expected time frame, and does not require unusual resources, thus should not be considered a complication nor coded as an additional diagnosis
    Other (please specify)*

    If ileus is not due to surgery, please provide its nature and/or underlying cause

    Ileus – adynamic
    Due to gallstone
    Duodenal, chronic
    Mechanical
    Due to cystic fibrosis
    Myxedema
    Fecal impaction
    Due to adhesions
    Due to anesthesia
    Due to immobility
    Mechanical
    Other (please specify)*

    The purpose of this query is to ensure accurate coding, severity of illness and risk of mortality compilation. When responding to this query, please exercise your independent professional judgment. The fact that a question is asked does not imply that any particular answer is desired or expected.


    Definitions

    NSQIP Definition- Prolonged Postoperative Ileus: Patient with an ileus managed with a nasogastric tube and/or the patient is NPO for ≥ postoperative day 3.

    Note: The patient must be on strict NPO status (NPO w/ ice chips or sips does not count)

    Postoperative Ileus - Although ileus has numerous causes, the postoperative state is the most common setting for the development of ileus. Indeed, ileus is an expected consequence of abdominal surgery. Physiologic ileus spontaneously resolves within 2-3 days, after sigmoid motility returns to normal. Ileus that persists for more than 3 days following surgery is termed postoperative adynamic ileus or paralytic ileus. (Livingston EH, Passaro EP Jr. Postoperative ileus. Dig Dis Sci. Jan 1990;35(1):121-32. [Medline].)



    Definitions Below from Stedman’s

    Ileus- Mechanical, dynamic, or adynamic obstruction of the intestines; may be accompanied by severe colicky pain, abdominal distention, vomiting, absence of passage of stool, and often fever and dehydration

    Adynamic Ileus - obstruction of the bowel due to paralysis of the bowel wall, usually as a result of localized or generalized peritonitis or shock

    Dynamic Ileus - intestinal obstruction due to spastic contraction of a segment of the bowel

    Gallstone Ileus - obstruction of the small intestine produced by passage of a gallstone from the biliary tract (usually the gallbladder as a result of cholecystitis) into the intestinal tract (usually by means of a fistulous connection between the gallbladder and the small intestine); occurrence and site of obstruction depend on size of the stone, but the usual location is at or near the ileocecal junction

    Mechanical Ileus - obstruction of the bowel due to some mechanical cause, e.g., volvulus, gallstone, adhesions

    Meconium Ileus - intestinal obstruction in the fetus and newborn following inspissation of meconium and caused by lack of trypsin; associated with cystic fibrosis

    OCCLUSIVE Ileus - complete mechanical blocking of the intestinal lumen

    Ileus SUBPARTA - obstruction of the large bowel by pressure of the pregnant uterus

    Terminal Ileus - obstruction of the lower part of the small bowel

    Verminous Ileus - obstruction due to masses of intestinal parasites





    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS

    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    Sutter West Bay
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell: 415.412.9421

    evanspx@sutterhealth.org

  • So...what does NSQIP state? Do they still issue standards and definitions for "PO ileus". I think I have best chance of acceptance (and would be more consistent) if I can state the definition per NSQIP.

    I don't have access to the NSQIP site.

    Thanks for ANY help. I just know we are over reporting ileus after surgery.

    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
     
    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    Sutter West Bay
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell:  415.412.9421

    evanspx@sutterhealth.org



  • edited April 2016
    My turn to pipe up!

    The clinical situation is the important thing to factor. When a patient has surgery for an infectious process in the abdomen, an ileus exists per-op (although almost nobody identifies it) or if there is bowel that is lacking oxygenated blood as in mesenteric infarction or strangulated hernia. All of these patients have an ileus going in. And guess what! They will have an ileus coming out. And this, barring significant contaminating events during the surgery or further infarcted bowel, this will last from 3 days to a week depending on the patient. If the doc thinks that the patient's prolonged time without resuming bowel activity is due to the inflammatory or ischemic process, then the complication code is not to be assigned - and maybe the ileus could be identified as starting pre-op if that is indeed an observation. Internal hernias will be seen to have an obstructive ileus pattern on x-ray - and they will have ileus post-op. When the peritoneal cavity is clean going in with an elective case, then there will virtually always be a physiologic ileus that averages three days - again depending on the patient. Patients with diabetic autonomic neuropathy, such as gastroparesis, may have prolonged time before opening up due to the diabetic autonomic dysfunction - again, not a complication code if the link is made. Usually, and I must say it from the perspective of a surgeon, if there is a clean, clean case and no other explanation for prolongation of time to resume bowel function, something may have been missed. There could be a pelvic abscess from inadvertent enterotomy or a wound infection or some other event you can point to. Whatever the case, this represents a complication - maybe even two complications. Rough handling of the bowel will lead to prolonged ileus - over 3 days without other problem identifiable - again, a complication. The most important things to consider are another cause of mechanical or reflex ileus that existed before the incision and linking the ileus to that process (any of the above) or something untoward happened. Put on your clinical hat to review the case before approaching the doc.

    Whatcha think?

    Robert S. Gold, MD
    CEO, DCBA, Inc
    4611 Brierwood Place
    Atlanta, GA 30360
    (770) 216-9691 (Office)
    (404) 580-0204 (Cell)

  • Wonderful information from all. My situation is that physicians ARE documenting 'post op ileus' in pts on day 1 or 2 of recovery...this happens very frequently. This will lead to coding of the condition, which is not correct.

    When I see this, I want to issue a query in hopes either the surgeon will indicate it is not proper to code an ileus, and/or some other MD will review the chart and clarify there is no p.o. ileus...this is a 'reverse query'. ACDIS/AHIMA Best Practice...issue a query for a diagnosis rendered, but may be lacking in clinical support.



    Ileus Post-op
    Query:
    On DATE documentation in the NOTE TYPE section of the medical record indicates the patient has post operative ileus. Clinical evaluation / treatment includes ***.

    The surgical procedure XXX was performed on DATE

    Please clarify the clinical significance, acuity, etiology, and severity of the findings noted in the medical record.

    You may answer this query by marking the checkbox(es) below or using free text at the ( * ) if appropriate.

    Provider Query Response:*

    0 There is no Ileus for this case
    0 Ileus was present before a procedure and is unrelated to procedure
    0 Ileus started after the procedure but is due to a disease
    0 Ileus started after the procedure but is due to a medication
    0 Ileus is due to the procedure and is out of the ordinary, thus should be coded as a complication
    0 Ileus is due to the procedure, falls within the routinely expected time frame, and does not require unusual resources, thus should not be considered a complication nor coded as an additional diagnosis
    0 Other (please specify)*

    If ileus is not due to surgery, please provide its nature and/or underlying cause

    0 Ileus – adynamic
    0 Due to gallstone
    0 Duodenal, chronic
    0 Mechanical
    0 Due to cystic fibrosis
    0 Myxedema
    0 Fecal impaction
    0 Due to adhesions
    0 Due to anesthesia
    0 Due to immobility
    0 Mechanical
    0 Other (please specify)*

    The purpose of this query is to ensure accurate coding, severity of illness and risk of mortality compilation. When responding to this query, please exercise your independent professional judgment. The fact that a question is asked does not imply that any particular answer is desired or expected.



    Definitions

    NSQIP Definition- Prolonged Postoperative Ileus: Patient with an ileus managed with a nasogastric tube and/or the patient is NPO for ≥ postoperative day 3.

    Note: The patient must be on strict NPO status (NPO w/ ice chips or sips does not count)

    Postoperative Ileus - Although ileus has numerous causes, the postoperative state is the most common setting for the development of ileus. Indeed, ileus is an expected consequence of abdominal surgery. Physiologic ileus spontaneously resolves within 2-3 days, after sigmoid motility returns to normal. Ileus that persists for more than 3 days following surgery is termed postoperative adynamic ileus or paralytic ileus. (Livingston EH, Passaro EP Jr. Postoperative ileus. Dig Dis Sci. Jan 1990;35(1):121-32. [Medline].)



    Definitions Below from Stedman’s

    Ileus- Mechanical, dynamic, or adynamic obstruction of the intestines; may be accompanied by severe colicky pain, abdominal distention, vomiting, absence of passage of stool, and often fever and dehydration

    Adynamic Ileus - obstruction of the bowel due to paralysis of the bowel wall, usually as a result of localized or generalized peritonitis or shock

    Dynamic Ileus - intestinal obstruction due to spastic contraction of a segment of the bowel

    Gallstone Ileus - obstruction of the small intestine produced by passage of a gallstone from the biliary tract (usually the gallbladder as a result of cholecystitis) into the intestinal tract (usually by means of a fistulous connection between the gallbladder and the small intestine); occurrence and site of obstruction depend on size of the stone, but the usual location is at or near the ileocecal junction

    Mechanical Ileus - obstruction of the bowel due to some mechanical cause, e.g., volvulus, gallstone, adhesions

    Meconium Ileus - intestinal obstruction in the fetus and newborn following inspissation of meconium and caused by lack of trypsin; associated with cystic fibrosis

    OCCLUSIVE Ileus - complete mechanical blocking of the intestinal lumen

    Ileus SUBPARTA - obstruction of the large bowel by pressure of the pregnant uterus

    Terminal Ileus - obstruction of the lower part of the small bowel

    Verminous Ileus - obstruction due to masses of intestinal parasites




    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
     
    Manager, Regional Clinical Documentation & Coding Integrity
    Sutter West Bay
    633 Folsom St., 7th Floor, Office 7-044
    San Francisco, CA 94107
    Cell:  415.412.9421

    evanspx@sutterhealth.org




  • edited April 2016
    The issue is to ask them if this is a physiologic ileus of opening the belly or an ileus intimating something is going wrong or has it lasted longer than expected. If the answer is no to both, it is not codable at all, It is integral to the postoperative state and everyone has it and if everyone has it, you don't code it.

    Robert S. Gold, MD
    CEO, DCBA, Inc
    4611 Brierwood Place
    Atlanta, GA 30360
    (770) 216-9691 (Office)
    (404) 580-0204 (Cell)

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