CHF queries
Our group has a couple of questions to throw out, specifically about queries for the type of CHF (systolic, diastolic, combined)
1. If an echo is referenced by a provider, how old can the echo be before it would be considered not acceptable to use in supporting a query for CHF? I was taught that within a year would be considered acceptable but wondered if that is still correct.
2. If the type of CHF is not documented would a query be appropriate regardless of what other documentation is on the chart (specifically if there is no recent echo)?
We had a discussion with our Physician Advisor who thinks we should query for type if CHF is written and not specified because the physician may have access to records of diagnostic tests done outside the hospital that are not documented in the patient hospital record. Theoretically the physician would answer the question and document the test results to support the type of CHF.
I seem to remember learning that CDI shouldn't query for type of CHF unless there is supporting evidence (e.g. an echo) that could be used to make the diagnosis of type.
We want to get it right and would love any input; I couldn't find any specific guidelines regarding these issues.
1. If an echo is referenced by a provider, how old can the echo be before it would be considered not acceptable to use in supporting a query for CHF? I was taught that within a year would be considered acceptable but wondered if that is still correct.
2. If the type of CHF is not documented would a query be appropriate regardless of what other documentation is on the chart (specifically if there is no recent echo)?
We had a discussion with our Physician Advisor who thinks we should query for type if CHF is written and not specified because the physician may have access to records of diagnostic tests done outside the hospital that are not documented in the patient hospital record. Theoretically the physician would answer the question and document the test results to support the type of CHF.
I seem to remember learning that CDI shouldn't query for type of CHF unless there is supporting evidence (e.g. an echo) that could be used to make the diagnosis of type.
We want to get it right and would love any input; I couldn't find any specific guidelines regarding these issues.
Comments
The second question is a lot trickier. I can see both perspectives. Since CHF defaults to an unspecified code, it is appropriate (and common practice) to clarify the type, which can be determined even without an ECHO, but most providers don't know those criteria so it isn't a straight forward as the ejection fraction. However, I would be sure to always query for CHF specificity not only when it can add a CC or MCC to a case. The organization can also make a policy that states it is your practice to query unspecified diagnoses like CHF, pneumonia, etc. Unlike other diagnoses, CHF has been addressed by coding clinic in the past as a chronic condition stating that it is always reportable. I think the advice regarding the need for the ECHO may be in support of CHF as a "reportable" diagnosis, which is not required based on that coding clinic. Specifically, coding clinic from 3rd Qtr 2007 states
"If there is documentation in the medical record to indicate that the patient has COPD, it should be coded. Even if this condition is listed only in the history section with no contradictory information, the condition should be coded. Chronic conditions such as, but not limited to, hypertension, Parkinson's disease, COPD, and diabetes mellitus are chronic systemic diseases that ordinarily should be coded even in the absence of documented intervention or further evaluation.
Some chronic conditions affect the patient for the rest of his or her life and almost always require some form of continuous clinical evaluation or monitoring during hospitalization, and therefore should be coded. This advice applies to inpatient coding."
Hope this helps. Cheryl Ericson
1) Coding rule : Code all pertinent chronic illnesses
2) Another coding rule: Code to the highest level of specificity
3) Yes, You have to query for all types of CHF because it is being treated with MEDS. If all you have is the ECHO, yes still query. Querying for CHF type and acuity based on "history of CHF" documentation is actually good medical practice.