Cardiac Arrest
We are having a discussion about when to code cardiac arrest as a secondary diagnosis. Our Coding Supervisor states that when a pt is admitted, cardiac arrests and dies code 427.5 is not coded. But, if the pt is admitted, cardiac arrests during admission, survives but dies later in the same admission we can use code 427.5 The other CDI Specialist and myself don't care whether it is a MCC or CC but we do think it should be coded to capture to resources utilized. What are your thoughts. We read the coding clinics. Maybe we are missing something? Thanks for your input. Dawn
Comments
See coding clinics 2nd Q 1988 pg 8 & 3rd Q 1995 pg 9.
Michele Goossen, RN, BSN, CHCQM
Clinical Documentation Specialist
Lakeland Regional Medical Center
863-687-1369
Dawn M. Vitalone, RN
Cardiac arrest - guidelines
Coding Clinic, Second Quarter 1988 Page: 8
Cardiac Arrest, 427.5
Code 427.5, Cardiac arrest (excludes that with pregnancy, anesthesia overdose or wrong substance given, and postoperative complications), may be assigned as principal diagnosis in the following instances:
Cardiac Arrest 427.5 is not an MCC if the pt expires. Do not use it as a PDX if an underlying etiology is known and do not code it if the physician documents cardiac arrest to indicate the patient's death when the underlying cause or contributing cause of death is known.
See coding clinics 2nd Q 1988 pg 8 & 3rd Q 1995 pg 9.
Michele Goossen, RN, BSN, CHCQM
Clinical Documentation Specialist
Lakeland Regional Medical Center
863-687-1369
Reference:
c. Acute Respiratory Failure
1) Acute respiratory failure as principal diagnosisICD-9-CM Official Guidelines for Coding and Reporting Effective October 1, 2011 Page 42 of 107
Acute respiratory failure, may be assigned as a principal diagnosis when it is the condition established after study to be chiefly responsible for occasioning the admission to the hospital, and the selection is supported by the Alphabetic Index and Tabular List. However, chapter-specific coding guidelines (such as obstetrics, poisoning, HIV, newborn) that provide sequencing direction take precedence.
2) Acute respiratory failure as secondary diagnosis
Respiratory failure may be listed as a secondary diagnosis if it occurs after admission, or if it is present on admission, but does not meet the definition of principal diagnosis.
Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
Supervisor, Clinical Documentation Integrity, Quality Department
California Pacific Medical Center
2351 Clay #243
San Francisco, CA 94115
Cell: 415.637.9002
Fax: 415.600.1325
Ofc: 415.600.3739
evanspx@sutterhealth.org
Sequencing of acute respiratory failure and another acute condition
When a patient is admitted with respiratory failure and another acute condition, (e.g., myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular accident, aspiration pneumonia), the principal diagnosis will not be the same in every situation. This applies whether the other acute condition is a respiratory or nonrespiratory condition. Selection of the principal diagnosis will be dependent on the circumstances of admission. If both the respiratory failure and the other acute condition are equally responsible for occasioning the admission to the hospital, and there are no chapter-specific sequencing rules, the guideline regarding two or more diagnoses that equally meet the definition for principal diagnosis (Section II, C.) may be applied in these situations.
If the documentation is not clear as to whether acute respiratory failure and another condition are equally responsible for occasioning the admission, query the provider for clarification.
Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P, CCDS
Supervisor, Clinical Documentation Integrity, Quality Department
California Pacific Medical Center
2351 Clay #243
San Francisco, CA 94115
Cell: 415.637.9002
Fax: 415.600.1325
Ofc: 415.600.3739
evanspx@sutterhealth.org
Is there a reason patient went into cardiac arrest? PE, Acute Respiratory Failure, MI?
Dorie
I'll be interested in hearing other responses as I would never claim to be an expert on this.
Katy Good, RN, BSN, CCDS, CCS
Clinical Documentation Program Coordinator
AHIMA Approved ICD-10CM/PCS Trainer
Flagstaff Medical Center
Kathryn.Good@nahealth.com
Cell: 928.814.9404
Jolene File,RHIT,CCS,CPC-H,CCDS
Documentation Improvement Specialist-Coder
Hays Medical Center
jolene.file@haysmed.com
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Good luck, let us know how this one turns out!!! ☺-V
Vicki Davis, RN CDS/CDI Manager
Alamance Regional Medical Center
North Carolina
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