Question for the coders in the group

Are you obligated to code every diagnosis that you see in the chart, even if you know it may not be supported clinically?

One of our docs wrote respiratory failure in her note (one time only), and there was absolutely nothing in the chart to support it. (She is off now and I have no way to query her about it.) I elected not to pick up the code, but my boss told our coder to take the 518.81 because she says the coders are obligated to code whatever diagnoses the physicians have written. Her position is that we should query the physician, and if the doctor won't take off the diagnosis, we code it, and then it becomes the doctor's responsibility to defend the diagnosis if/when we are audited.

Is that your understanding as well?

Renee

Linda Renee Brown, RN, CCRN, CCDS
Clinical Documentation Specialist
Arizona Heart Hospital

Comments

  • edited May 2016
    Gosh, I'm not sure where she's coming from. Did she feel it met the
    definition of a reportable condition, per Coding Guidelines? From your
    description, it did not meet the criteria for a reportable condition. In
    that case, I would consider it an incidental finding. That's also how I
    handle atelectasis. Did it meet the definition of a reportable
    condition? If so, I query-if not, I don't.

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  • edited May 2016
    I agree. I am a coder and if I feel a dx is not supported by some sort
    of treatment, I do not code it.


  • edited May 2016
    One ought not to code a diagnosis that does not meet the definition of a reportable other / additional dx -- a condition that requires clinical eval, tx, procedure, extends LOS, increased nursing care or monitoring. From what you are describing, the documentation does not proviide support for any of those criteria.

    Don


  • edited May 2016
    Well, past coding guidelines say if the physician documents a diagnosis
    in the chart you are supposed to code. Present - RAC-day coding - you
    need to Query for the diagnosis. In the past I have coded some
    diagnoses as "secondary" because the physician documentation was not
    clinically supported.

    There is also the very real example that a condition is mentioned in the
    H&P and is resolved w/in 24 hours of admission. If it's supported
    clinically you can code.

    I recently asked this very same question to a friend/consultant and her
    advice was the same - if it's not supported you should Query first and
    if it's still in question - not to include.

    It's a very fine line you walk between coding something the physician
    documents and coding something that is not supported clinically.


    N. Brunson, RHIA
    Clinical Documentation Specialist
    Bay Medical Center


  • I agree with you that if it is not supported in the documentation then it should be queried. I can also see your manager's response... If you have a process in place, it should be followed by everyone. The problem I see for you is that you need to work on a process change.??
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