ARF Query?

I greatly appreciate the ARF/AKI resources everyone shared yesterday!



I am having hard time getting docs to document the etiology of the ARF.



The way I understand it the following causes of ARF are MCCs

1) ATN (most common?)

2) Medullary Necrosis

3) Cortical Necrosis

4) Other specified pathological lesion



At my facility I keep seeing documented "ARF due to dehydration", and
"ARF likely pre-renal", etc.

I'm thinking about making an ARF query asking for the etiology but I'm
afraid that if I word it like that I will just continue getting "ARF
etiology-dehydration."

Any ideas on how to word a query like this or any query examples you
would be willing to share?

Are you querying all cases of ARF to see if they are due to ATN, etc?

Or how are you deciding which ARF cases to query?



Thanks!



Greta Goodman

Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist

Health Information Management

Virginia Hospital Center

1701 North George Mason Drive

Arlington, VA 22205

703-558-5336

ggoodman@virginiahospitalcenter.com




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Comments

  • I would not query for ATN for all cases of ARF unless you see some of
    the indicators referenced in the resources cited yesterday as Acute
    Renal Failure w/o ATN is pretty common in dehydrated patients.



    I would review for an abnormal FENA result and the abnormal urine
    results per the citation below.



    The original posting also stated the Serum Cr returns to normal faster
    in ARF w/o ATN, and this can be a clue as well.



    The ACDIS blog you cited has quite a bit of useful information you can
    use to try to determine if/when to query for ATN - I would just bear
    in mind that simple pre-renal ARF 584.9 is apparently more common than
    ATN and if you query all of your ARF due to dehydration, you may
    experience a lot of denials.



    Acute tubular necrosis (ATN) is defined by acute kidney injury and
    tubular damage in the absence of significant glomerular or vascular
    pathology. Tubular casts, red cells, and protein may be seen in the
    urinanalysis. If the offending agent is removed, the kidneys usually
    repair themselves. (Robbins Pathology)



    Paul Evans, RHIA, CCS, CCS-P

    Supervisor, Clinical Documentation Integrity

    California Pacific Medical Center

    2351 Clay #243

    San Francisco, CA 94115

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    Fax: 415.600.1325

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    I greatly appreciate the ARF/AKI resources everyone shared yesterday!



    I am having hard time getting docs to document the etiology of the ARF.



    The way I understand it the following causes of ARF are MCCs

    1) ATN (most common?)

    2) Medullary Necrosis

    3) Cortical Necrosis

    4) Other specified pathological lesion



    At my facility I keep seeing documented "ARF due to dehydration", and
    "ARF likely pre-renal", etc.

    I'm thinking about making an ARF query asking for the etiology but I'm
    afraid that if I word it like that I will just continue getting "ARF
    etiology-dehydration."

    Any ideas on how to word a query like this or any query examples you
    would be willing to share?

    Are you querying all cases of ARF to see if they are due to ATN, etc?

    Or how are you deciding which ARF cases to query?



    Thanks!



    Greta Goodman

    Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist

    Health Information Management

    Virginia Hospital Center

    1701 North George Mason Drive

    Arlington, VA 22205

    703-558-5336

    ggoodman@virginiahospitalcenter.com



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